Talmud Jerusalem
Talmud Jerusalem

Talmud for Ta'anit 1:1

משנה מאימתי מזכירין גבורות גשמים ר' אליעזר אומר מי"ט הראשון של חג. ורבי יהושע אומר מי"ט האחרון א"ר יהושע הואיל ואין הגשמים סימן ברכה בחג למה הוא מזכיר אמר לו רבי אליעזר אף הוא אינו אומר אלא משיב הרוח ומוריד הגשם בעונתו אמר לו אם כן לעולם יהא מזכיר:

From when may one recite Shema in the evening? From the time the Kohanim go in to eat their Terumah (produce consecrated for priestly consumption). Until the end of the first watch, says Rabbi Eliezer. And the Sages say: Until [astronomical] midnight. Rabban Gamliel says: Until the break of dawn. It once happened that his [Rabban Gamliel’s] sons came from a house of feasting. They said to him: We have not recited Shema. He to them: If dawn has not broken, you are obligated to recite it. And it is not only in this case that they said it! Rather, in all cases where the Sages said "only until midnight," the obligation remains until the break of dawn. [e.g.] Burning the fats and limbs [of the sacrifices, on the Temple altar] — the obligation is until the break of dawn. [e.g.:] All [sacrifices] which may be eaten for one day — the obligation is until the break of dawn. If that is so, why did the Sages say, "until midnight?" To distance a person from transgression.

Jerusalem Talmud Taanit

The argument of Rebbi Jehudah seems inverted. There108Mishnah 2. he says, “the one who stands before the Ark on the last holiday of Tabernacles, the last one mentions but the first one does not mention;” and here109Mishnah 3. he says so? One {Mishnah} in his own name, the other one in the name of Rebbi Jehudah ben Bathyra. But we do not know which one in his own name and which one in the name of Rebbi Jehudah ben Bathyra. Since “Rebbi Joḥanan said, practice follows Rebbi Jehudah who said in the name of Rebbi Jehudah ben Bathyra, and Rebbi Abun said in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: The reason of Rebbi Jehudah, that all holidays end with dew since dew is a good sign for the world,” this implies that the first one is in his own name, the second one in the name of Rebbi Jehudah ben Bathyra110“First” here must refer to Mishnah 3, “second” to Mishnah 2. Only Mishnah 2 is practice. Babli 4b..
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