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Talmud for Eruvin 3:1

חמתה מרובה מצילתה בסוכה פסולה ובמבוי כשר סוכה מקורה פסולה מבוי מקורה כשר רבי אמי בשם רב הושעיא לא סוף דבר מקורה אלא נתן מלתרא יש בו רחב ארבעה טפחים מתרת את המבוי רבי אחא רבי חיננא בשם כהנא הלכה כרבי יודה דלא כן מה אנן אמרינן רבי יודה וחכמים תהא הלכה כרבי יודה אלא בגין דא"ר יעקב בר אידי בשם ר' יהושע בן לוי הלכה כדברי המיקל בהלכות עירובין ואמר רב נחמן בר יצחק בשם רבי יהושע בן לוי הלכה כרבי יוחנן בן נורי ומקשינן עליה לא כן אמר רבי יעקב בר אידי בשם רבי יהושע בן לוי הלכה כדברי המיקל בהילכות עירובין לא כן א"ר יצחק בר נחמן בשם ריב"ל הלכה כרבי יוחנן בן נורי וקשיינן עלה סברין מימר יחיד אצל יחיד הא יחיד אצל חכמים לא אתא רבי יעקב בר אחא רבי יעקב בר אידי בשם ר' יהושע בן לוי הלכה כרבי יוחנן בן נורי ואפילו חכמים החלוקין עליו וכא תהא הלכה כרבי יודה ואפילו חכמים החלוקים עליו שמואל אמר הלכה כדברי המיקל בעירובין א"ל רב חייה בר אשי כגון ההוא דתנינן תמן וכן גשרים המפולשין מטלטלין תחתיהן בשבת דברי רבי יודה וחכמים אוסרין א"ל לא עירובין אמרתי אלא מחיצות סבר כהנא כהדא דשמואל לפום כן צריך מימר אין הלכה כרבי יודה לא אמר אלא למעשה מעשרים הא בסוף עשרים כשר ותייא כרב דרב אמר

a creative task, he should bring a sin offering. Two--he should bring a conditional sin offering. Three--he is exempt [from bringing a sacrifice of any sort.]” Rabbi Yose bar Bon raised the question [thus]: “If you were to say that two [stars indicate] doubt [as to whether it is day or night, then] if one saw two stars on the eve of the Sabbath and [others] warned him [that it was the Sabbath, thus making him liable for its violation], yet he [nonetheless] performed a creative task; [and if he subsequently] saw two stars on the departure of the Sabbath and [others] warned him [that it was still the Sabbath], yet he performed a creative task; then either way you like [he is liable for a violation of the Sabbath]. If the first [set of stars] were [an indication that it was still] daytime [and not yet the Sabbath], then the last stars were also [an indication that it was still] daytime [and still the Sabbath], then he is liable [for a violation of the Sabbath] on account of the last set [of stars]. If the last [set of stars] were [an indication that it was now] night time [and the Sabbath had begun], then the first stars were also [an indication that it was now] night time [and no longer the Sabbath], then he is liable [for a violation of the Sabbath] on account of the first set [of stars]. [Another example:] If he saw two stars on the eve of the Sabbath and partially harvested a fig, [and] if he [subsequently returned] in the morning and harvested another part, and if he saw two stars on the departure of the Sabbath and harvested the [last] part of the fig, then either way you like [he is liable for a sin offering]. If the first [set of stars] were [an indication that it was still] daytime [and not yet the Sabbath], then the last stars were also [an indication that it was still] daytime [and still the Sabbath] and the morning harvest joins with that of the departure of the sabbath, and he is liable [for a sin offering] on account of the last set [of stars]. If the last [set of stars] were [an indication that it was] night time [and now the Sabbath], then the last stars were also [an indication that it was] daytime [and no longer the Sabbath] and the morning harvest joins with that of the night of the Sabbath, and he is liable [for a sin offering] on account of the first set [of stars].” These [stars] that you are speaking of are [only] those whose way is not to appear in the daytime. However, we do not count those whose way is to appear in the daytime. Rabbi Yose bar Bon said: “Just so long as three stars may be seen aside from that [one we call] Kokhvata (prob. Venus).” (This may be a scribal error and the original version may have been: “Just so long as three stars may be seen [in one place, just] as one star [can be so seen.]”) Rabbi Yaakov of Romana in the name of Rabbi Yehuda ben Pazi: “One star, surely day. Two, night.” But does he [truly] have no [time period of] doubt!? He has doubt about [discerning] one star from another. A baraita teaches: “So long as the eastern horizon is reddened, it is daytime. What has been said about the stars, applies to those which are not generally seen until nightfall; for, no note is taken of those which appear before the day is terminated. Therefore, R. Yosse bar R. Aboon says: It means three stars not counting, R. Jacob from Darom (south) says: One star indicates that it is still day; but two stars certainly show that it is night. Is there any doubt of this? No; the doubt can only exist between the stars visible by day, and the other stars. With regard to this, we are taught that it is still day as long as the sky is red towards the east;

Jerusalem Talmud Maasrot

39The paragraph has a parallel in Eruvin 3, fol. 20d. Rebbi Yose40This must be R. Yose ben R. Ḥanina since R. Eleazar quotes in his name. No Rebbi Sheshet is known from another source; Rav Sheshet holds in Babli Eruvin 32a that one always may trust an agent to fulfill the duties of his agency. This is rejected here. The older R. Yose ben Ḥanina is not likely to quote from the younger Rav Sheshet. in the name of Rebbi Sheshet, Rebbi Eleazar in the name of Rebbi Yose in the name of Rebbi Abin: If somebody says to another I shall tithe for you, he does not have to be with him. There41Mishnah Eruvin 3:3. For the notion of eruv, cf. Peah 8, Note 56., we have stated: “If he put it in a tree, higher than ten hand-breadths it is not an eruv, lower than ten hand-breadths it is an eruv.” Rebbi Eleazar said, he has to be with him42The previous Mishnah states: “An eruv sent through an insane, a deaf and dumb, or a minor is invalid. If the eruv will be delivered to a competent person, it is valid.” In the interpretation of the Yerushalmi, the two Mishnaiot belong together; the person who puts the eruv into a tree at the border of the Sabbath domain is an agent of the person who intends to use the eruv. The latter has to check that the agent executed the terms of his agency.. And here, you say so? Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Ada said, here about an adult, there about a minor. Rebbi Ḥananiah said in the name of Rebbi Ḥanina, you may even say in both cases we deal with an adult or in both cases we deal with a minor. There, when he says, make an eruv for me! But here, he says I shall tithe for you43The initiative is the agent’s, not the beneficiary’s.. This learns from that and that learns from this. This learns from that, if he says I shall make an eruv for you, he does not have to be with him. That learns from this, if he says tithe for me, he has to be with him.
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Jerusalem Talmud Eruvin

HALAKHAH: Paragraph. “If it rolled outside the Sabbath boundary,” etc. They said only “if it became impure.115Mishnah 4, the case of an eruv made with heave, which is food only if pure. The Mishnah only deals with the case that there is certainty that the heave became impure, the only question is when it happened. The eruv is valid if and only if the heave was pure at the beginning of the Sabbath at sundown or in early twilight. Babli 36a.” A doubt whether it became impure when it still was daylight, a doubt whether it became impure in the night. But if there was a doubt whether it was pure or impure one may use it for an eruv116If the eruv was deposited in the public domain, any doubt whether there is purity has to be resolved in favor of purity (cf. Soṭah 1:2 Note 88). The Babli 36a disagrees.. Rebbi Samuel bar Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Jonathan: They followed the status quo ante117Both groups, R. Meïr and R. Jehudah who are restrictive and R. Yose and R. Simeon who are lenient agree with the principle that in cases of doubt one presumes the permanence of the prior state; cf. Giṭṭin 6:3 (Note 87)..
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Jerusalem Talmud Eruvin

HALAKHAH: “Rebbi Eliezer says,” etc. “But the Sages say, either one makes an eruv to one side.” So is the Mishnah: Either one makes an eruv to one side for two days or one does not make an eruv at all152The words “in one direction” are missing in Mishnah 9.. Rebbi Eliezer agrees that one cannot make an eruv for half a day in the South and one for half a day in the North, for half a day in the South and one for half a day (in the North)153The words in parentheses are clearly out of place but they are also found in G. for the people of his place. They told him, just as you did not split the day for us, so do not split two days for us154Cf. Note 22. Even though the sanctity of the Sabbath is different in kind from that of the holiday, for the eruv to become effective on the Sabbath one would have to invalidate the eruv for the holiday some time before sundown.. They agree that he should not put them155The eruvim for the two days. in a basket. Rebbi Abba said, that he should not forget and eat it. If he did put it into a basket, he should bring the basket there. If he eats one of them he is a donkey driver-camel driver156If it cannot be determined which day’s eruv was eaten both are potentially valid or invalid both days..
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