Talmud for Ketubot 12:1
הבעל צריך להביא ראייה מן אילין בתולין ובתולין וכי בטלו לא בבית אביה בטלו ואת אמר הבעל צריך להביא ראייה וכא הבעל צריך להביא ראייה:
הבעל צריך להביא ראייה מן אילין בתולין ובתולין וכי בטלו לא בבית אביה בטלו ואת אמר הבעל צריך להביא ראייה וכא הבעל צריך להביא ראייה:
Jerusalem Talmud Gittin
“For a woman’s ketubah with lowest quality.” 40This paragraph is a rearrangement of a paragraph in Ketubot 12:5 (Notes 54–59) and one in Peah 3:9 (Notes 182–189). Rebbi Jeremiah said, they taught only for a ketubah of a mina or 200 [zuz], but a ketubah of a thousand denar she collects from average quality41The obligatory minimum she collects only from the lowest quality land; any excess she can take from average quality. The Yerushalmi does not give a reason why a woman can collect only from lowest quality real estate; the Babli (49b–50a) after a lengthy discussion decides that this is a necessary institution to induce men to get married.. Rebbi Yose said, even a ketubah of a thousand denar she collects only from lowest quality. It turns out that this disagreement parallels the following disagreement: “While she lives in her father’s house, she always can collect her ketubah; if she lives in her husband’s house, she can collect her ketubah for 25 years.”42Mishnah Ketubot 12:5. Rebbi Simon in the name of Rebbi Joshua ben Levi: One stated this only for the ketubah of a mina or 200 [zuz]. But a ketubah of 1’000 denar she collects forever. Rebbi Abbahu quoted in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: Even a ketubah of 1’000 denar she can collect only up to 25 years. It turns out that Rebbi Yose follows Rebbi Joḥanan and Rebbi Jeremiah Rebbi Joshua ben Levi. As we have stated there43Mishnah Peah 3:9.: “If somebody signs over his property to his sons and signs over some real estate to his wife, she loses her claim to ketubah.” Rav said, if he sells through her44In Peah, “if he lets them acquire through her agency.” One has to assume that this is meant here also.. Samuel says, if he distributes in her presence. Rebbi Yose ben Ḥanina said, they stated here a relaxation of the laws of ketubah. Rebbi Abba said, the reason of Rebbi Yose ben Ḥanina is that it applies not only to a ketubah of a mina or two hundred, but even regarding a ketubah of one thousand denar they proclaimed a relaxation of the laws of ketubah.
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Jerusalem Talmud Kilayim
Rebbi commanded three things on his death-bed70In addition to the two Yerushalmi sources mentioned in the previous Note, there is a Babylonian source Ketubot 103. Since the Mishnah mentions shrouds, there follows a lengthy insertion about burials.: My widow should not move from my house; do not eulogize me in small towns; and he who served me during my lifetime should serve me in my death. “My widow should not move from my house,” is that not a Mishnah? “The widow who said, I cannot possibly move from my husband’s house …71Mishnah Ketubot 12:3: “If a widow said, I cannot possibly move from my husband’s house, the heirs may not say, go to your father’s house and we shall support you there, but they support her and give her an apartment corresponding to her standard of living.” The Mishnah does not require that the widow keep the identical apartment she occupied during her marriage, only an equivalent one. In the tradition of the Babli, Rebbi’s widow was not the mother of his children, his heirs.” Rebbi Dositheos69In the parallel in Ketubot 12:3 (fol. 35a), ר׳ דוסא. In the parallel Gen.rabba 100(3), ר׳ דוסתאי, Dositheos. The text in Gen.rabba seems to be the original text from which the one here is an abbreviation. said, that they should not say, this is the house of the patriarchate and must serve the patriarchate72In the opinion of Gen.rabba, the argument would have been valid if the house of the patriarch had been built with public money. But since Rebbi built his house with his own money, his successor could not occupy this house.. Rebbi Eleazar bar Yose said, as we have stated73The Babylonian version is in Babli Ketubot 103a and, in shortened form, in Tosephta Ketubot 11:5: The woman whose husband died lives in the houses she lived in during her husband’s lifetime, uses slaves and handmaidens, silver and gold vessels she used during her husband’s lifetime, for so he writes to her (in the marriage document): You shall live in my house and be supported by my property as long as you are a widow in my house.: “She lives in the houses just as she lived while her husband was overseas, she uses silver and golden vessels just as she used to while her husband was overseas, she is fed just as she was fed while her husband was overseas.” “Do not eulogize me in small towns” because of the quarrels74That there should not be competition among places which were not really able to provide decent eulogizers. The Babli (loc.cit. 103b) explains that in small villages the crowds are too small to give the honor due.. “He who served me during my lifetime should serve me in my death;” Rebbi Ḥananiah from Sepphoris said, for example Yose Ephrati and Joseph from Haifa. Rebbi Ḥizqiah added, do not use many shrouds on me and let my coffin have holes at the bottom75(Cf.Šulḥan ‘ārûkh Yôrē Dē‘ā¶362.) In Gen. rabba, the explanation is that the body should decompose rapidly. It is talmudic doctrine that the soul suffers during decomposition of the body and, except for those sinners whose place is in hell, the suffering stops when only the bones are left (Babli Berakhot 18b).. These words say that Rebbi was buried in a single shroud since Rebbi said, not as a man left, he will come76At Resurrection.. But the rabbis say, just as a man left, he will come. It was stated in the name of Rebbi Nathan77The quote in Yalquṭ Sim‘oni Job 924 reads: R. Jonathan.: The garment that went with a person to the grave will come back with him. What is the reason? (Job 38:14) “The seal78The “seal” of a person are the characteristics differentiating him from all others: voice, looks, and thinking [Sanhedrin Yerushalmi 3:13 (fol. 22b), Babli 38a]. turns itself around like clay, they appear in dress.” Antoninus79A Roman emperor of the Severan dynasty who reputedly was a crypto-Jew. Since all emperors of that dynasty adopted the name of Antoninus together with that of Augustus, speculations about the identity of this Antoninus are rather futile. asked Rebbi, what is the meaning of “The seal turns itself around like clay?” He said to him, He Who brings the generation clothes it80God will not only create the flesh as described in Ezechiel’s vision of the dry bones but the clothing with it, as He did for Adam. An echo of this discussion is in Babli Sanhedrin 90b, bottom..
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