Talmud for Niddah 3:1
הרואה דם מטמא למפרע ומה היא מטמא האוכלין והמשקין והמשכבות והמושבות ואינה מקולקלת למניינה ואינה מטמא את בעלה למפרע רבי עקיבה אומר מטמא את בעלה למפרע וזה וזה תולין אבל לא שורפין. תמן אמרין מעת לעת שאמרו משכבה כמגעה מה כבועל נדה ואינו מטמא בהיסט ואינו מטמא ככלי חרס אשכח תני מטמא בכלי חרס בהיסט. מעת לעת שאמרו מגעה ברשות הרבים מהו נישמעינה מן הדא מעוברת ומיניקה טהורות לבעליהן וכן אשה שיש לה ווסת ושאר כל הנשים טהורות בביאה ומטמאות במגע הדא אמרה ודאי מגעה ברשות הרבים טמא. רבי יודן בעי בדקה חלוקה בשחרית ומצתה טהור ובמנחה ומצאת עליו כתם פשיטא חלוקה אינו טמא אלא עד שעת בדיקה גופה מהו שיהא טמא מעת לעת. כלום את מטמא גופה אלא מחמת חלוקה חלוקה אינו טמא אלא עד שעת בדיקה וגופה טמא מעת לעת: והמשמשת בעדים הרי זו כפקידה. היך עבידא בדקה עצמה בשחרית ושימשה בעד בחצות וראת במנחה אין טמא אלא עד שעת תשמיש לוי אמר בעד של אחר התשמיש היא מתניתא אבל בעד שלפני התשמיש המומה היא לביתה ואינה בודקת יפה רבי אבון בשם רבי זעירא בעד שלפני התשמיש היא מתניתא אבל בעד של אחר התשמיש דיהא היא מחמת שכבת זרע:
a creative task, he should bring a sin offering. Two--he should bring a conditional sin offering. Three--he is exempt [from bringing a sacrifice of any sort.]” Rabbi Yose bar Bon raised the question [thus]: “If you were to say that two [stars indicate] doubt [as to whether it is day or night, then] if one saw two stars on the eve of the Sabbath and [others] warned him [that it was the Sabbath, thus making him liable for its violation], yet he [nonetheless] performed a creative task; [and if he subsequently] saw two stars on the departure of the Sabbath and [others] warned him [that it was still the Sabbath], yet he performed a creative task; then either way you like [he is liable for a violation of the Sabbath]. If the first [set of stars] were [an indication that it was still] daytime [and not yet the Sabbath], then the last stars were also [an indication that it was still] daytime [and still the Sabbath], then he is liable [for a violation of the Sabbath] on account of the last set [of stars]. If the last [set of stars] were [an indication that it was now] night time [and the Sabbath had begun], then the first stars were also [an indication that it was now] night time [and no longer the Sabbath], then he is liable [for a violation of the Sabbath] on account of the first set [of stars]. [Another example:] If he saw two stars on the eve of the Sabbath and partially harvested a fig, [and] if he [subsequently returned] in the morning and harvested another part, and if he saw two stars on the departure of the Sabbath and harvested the [last] part of the fig, then either way you like [he is liable for a sin offering]. If the first [set of stars] were [an indication that it was still] daytime [and not yet the Sabbath], then the last stars were also [an indication that it was still] daytime [and still the Sabbath] and the morning harvest joins with that of the departure of the sabbath, and he is liable [for a sin offering] on account of the last set [of stars]. If the last [set of stars] were [an indication that it was] night time [and now the Sabbath], then the last stars were also [an indication that it was] daytime [and no longer the Sabbath] and the morning harvest joins with that of the night of the Sabbath, and he is liable [for a sin offering] on account of the first set [of stars].” These [stars] that you are speaking of are [only] those whose way is not to appear in the daytime. However, we do not count those whose way is to appear in the daytime. Rabbi Yose bar Bon said: “Just so long as three stars may be seen aside from that [one we call] Kokhvata (prob. Venus).” (This may be a scribal error and the original version may have been: “Just so long as three stars may be seen [in one place, just] as one star [can be so seen.]”) Rabbi Yaakov of Romana in the name of Rabbi Yehuda ben Pazi: “One star, surely day. Two, night.” But does he [truly] have no [time period of] doubt!? He has doubt about [discerning] one star from another. A baraita teaches: “So long as the eastern horizon is reddened, it is daytime.
Jerusalem Talmud Niddah
In the Babli, 17b, the statement is credited to the school of Rav Huna.. Rav Naḥman bar Rav Isaac asked Rav Huna: Does the Mishnah [deal with the case that blood was found] inwards of the door of the upper floor74Does the presumption of impurity of the blood presuppose proof that it is unlikely to come from the tubes?? He said to him, if it was found inwards of the door of the upper floor it is certainly [impure]. But we deal with the case that it was found outwards from the door of the upper floor75Therefore, the blood is treated as probably, but not certainly, impure. If the woman touched heave, the heave would be in limbo, could not be used nor be burned before it spoils.. The words of the rabbis disagree, since Rebbi Joḥanan said, three are like a doubt but they treated them as certain, viz., the following: A woman who has a miscarriage in the form of a cut-off hand or cut-off foot76Mishnah 3:1. If the miscarriage produces something that does not look at all like a human fetus, one might think that it was questionable whether there really had been a pregnancy and there should be no pure period but this is treated like a birth and the woman becomes impure (as for a female) and subsequently pure (as for a male)., or a placenta77An empty placenta is treated as sign of a birth even if it was not preceded by any child, Mishnah 3:4., and blood found in the anteroom78The case of the Mishnah here. According to R. Joḥanan, heave becomes certainly impure and has to be burned immediately. In the Babli, 17b, the disagreement between the Babylonian Rav Huna and the Galilean R. Joḥanan is quoted as one between the Babylonian Rav Qaṭina (a colleague of Rav Huna) and the Galilean R. Ḥiyya (the Elder).. What are we speaking of? If it was found inwards of the door of the upper floor it is certainly [impure]. But we must deal with the case that it was found outwards from the door of the upper floor. Rebbi Abba the son of Rebbi Pappaios asked before Rebbi Yose: We have stated many doubts79There are many more Mishnaiot (partially enumerated in the Babli, 18a) in which cases of impurity are resolved by rabbinic rules without all the facts being known which would allow a factual determination. Why does R. Joḥanan count only three? and you say so? He said to him, Rebbi Joḥanan spoke only of a woman80The same answer in the Babli, 18a..