תלמוד על כלאים 3:1
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Rebbi Yosa in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: All of these form pairs. Has that been said for the entire Chapter, or only for this Halakhah? From what Rav said, that the five vegetables with which one may satisfy one’s obligation at Passover time can all be sown in one vegetable bed26The five vegetables which may be used for bitter herbs on Passover are enumerated in Mishnah Pesaḥim2:5; cf. the author’s The Scholar’s Haggadah, pp. 332–333. The parallel discussion to the one given here is in Babli Pesaḥim 39a, also in the name of Rav. The statement of Rav was understood to mean that the five kinds may be sown together., and one says that the statement of Rav disagrees with Rebbi Joḥanan27Since some of the bitter herbs are mentioned in Mishnah 2, dividing them into groups seems to contradict the opinion of Rav., it follows that it has been said for the entire Chapter. Rav Abba in the name of Rav: All28Referring to the Chapter here, identical with the previous statement of R. Joḥanan that only pairs of plants enumerated with a connecting ו may be planted together. have been stated in pairs. The reasoning of Rav is inverted; there he says that they all constitute one kind, and here, he says so? No, Rav did not say that they all constitute one kind, but rather that they all are kinds of vegetables that may be sown in one vegetable bed29In Mishnah 3:1 it will be stated that in planting vegetable beds one may not mix vegetables but one may plant different kinds so that they almost touch at corners, whereas grain and legume fields need much greater distances between different crops. All Rav wanted to state was that they can be sown under the lenient rules for vegetable beds, for intensive cultivation, in contrast to produce that can only be sown in fields, for extensive cultivation. Rav did not mean to say that they all were one kind..
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Rebbi Jonah said, Rebbi Zeïra and Rebbi Immi, both in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan, one said one plants near a fence but not near a border wall54However, everybody agrees that one may sow דאש תור under all circumstances. This shows that the explanation of Maimonides in Mishnah 3:1, using a diamond-shaped field in the center עדוגה, is consistent with the Halakhah here, while R. Obadiah of Bertinoro’s explanation of the position of R. Jehudah is not.
The statement means that one may sow close to the fence on both sides of the fence, even if the thickness of the fence is less than 1.5 hand-breadths, but sowing near a border wall that is 1 hand-breadth high requires one to leave half a hand-breadth empty in the עדוגה or on top of the wall adjacent to the ערוגה, for a total separation of 1.5 hand-breadths., and the other said, a border wall which lost height is in order, hence a fence which lost height is invalid. But we do not know who said what. Since Rebbi Yose said, Rebbi Zeïra in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: One plants near a fence but not near a border wall, this means Rebbi Immi is the one who said that a border wall that lost height is in order, hence a fence which lost height is invalid. Rebbi Yose said, we also did make both statements, that a border wall that lost height is in order, hence a fence that lost height55To less than 10 hand-breadths, unless the fence itself was 1.5 hand-breadths wide. is invalid. One plants near a fence, as we have stated (Mishnah 2:8): “One does sow close to a fallow field, a plowed field, a stone wall, a foot path, a fence ten hand-breadths high.” One does not plant near a border wall, as we have stated (Mishnah 3:2): “In a furrow or a water canal that are one hand-breadth deep one may sow three kinds of seeds, one on each side and one in the middle.” If you say that one may sow close to a border wall, he should sow several rows down in the ditch. The colleagues said before Rebbi Samuel bar Abin: Explain it if the top of the border wall was sown56One may not sow parallel to it in the ditch unless the total distance was 1.5 hand-breadths. But a single seed acts as דאש תור and is permitted.. He said to them, if it is so, let him uproot that stem and sow several rows down in the ditch. Is it not better to uproot one stem and sow several rows down in the ditch?
The statement means that one may sow close to the fence on both sides of the fence, even if the thickness of the fence is less than 1.5 hand-breadths, but sowing near a border wall that is 1 hand-breadth high requires one to leave half a hand-breadth empty in the עדוגה or on top of the wall adjacent to the ערוגה, for a total separation of 1.5 hand-breadths., and the other said, a border wall which lost height is in order, hence a fence which lost height is invalid. But we do not know who said what. Since Rebbi Yose said, Rebbi Zeïra in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: One plants near a fence but not near a border wall, this means Rebbi Immi is the one who said that a border wall that lost height is in order, hence a fence which lost height is invalid. Rebbi Yose said, we also did make both statements, that a border wall that lost height is in order, hence a fence that lost height55To less than 10 hand-breadths, unless the fence itself was 1.5 hand-breadths wide. is invalid. One plants near a fence, as we have stated (Mishnah 2:8): “One does sow close to a fallow field, a plowed field, a stone wall, a foot path, a fence ten hand-breadths high.” One does not plant near a border wall, as we have stated (Mishnah 3:2): “In a furrow or a water canal that are one hand-breadth deep one may sow three kinds of seeds, one on each side and one in the middle.” If you say that one may sow close to a border wall, he should sow several rows down in the ditch. The colleagues said before Rebbi Samuel bar Abin: Explain it if the top of the border wall was sown56One may not sow parallel to it in the ditch unless the total distance was 1.5 hand-breadths. But a single seed acts as דאש תור and is permitted.. He said to them, if it is so, let him uproot that stem and sow several rows down in the ditch. Is it not better to uproot one stem and sow several rows down in the ditch?
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We have stated the opinion of Rebbi Jehudah here, and we have stated it there73In Mishnah 3:1, where the rabbis permit only five kinds in a garden bed but Rebbi Jehudah permits six.. If it had been stated here but not there, we would have said that just as Rebbi Jehudah who is restrictive here74Rebbi Jehudah requires a full hand-breadth of empty space as walkway between the two parts of the field. The rabbis require less, according to the argument here. The problem is that the rabbis are not mentioned here, nor are they in any parallel Tosephta. By the rules of decision accepted in the Babli, practice follows R. Aqiba against any one of his colleagues. If we accept this here, then the explanation of R. Aqiba’s statement in the Mishnah must follow Maimonides and the opinion of R. Simson becomes unacceptable! There is no indication that the Yerushalmi accepts that rule; in addition, R. Aqiba here disagrees with two of his colleagues, so that there is a two to one majority which rejects his position. We must assume that in the opinion of the Yerushalmi, the rabbis will be ready to accept any furrow as separation, without prescribing any minimal width. is permissive there, the rabbis who are permissive here certainly will be permissive there. Hence, it is necessary to state there. Or if it was stated there but not here, we would have said that just as the rabbis who are restrictive there are permissive here, Rebbi Jehudah who is permissive there certainly will be permissive here. Hence, it is necessary to state both here and there.
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