תלמוד על כלאים 9:1

HALAKHAH: “Rebbi Eliezer says, he who weaves,” etc. ¹¹The first part of this paragraph has a parallel (with R. Simon quoted before R. Ulla) in Kilaim 9:7, Notes 168–170. Rebbi Ulla said, the reason of Rebbi Eliezer is that by the third his work becomes permanent¹²For R. Eliezer work is only forbidden on the Sabbath if it practically is irreversible.. Does Rebbi Eliezer hold with Rebbi Jehudah? As we have stated there¹³Mishnah Kilaim 9:10.: “Rebbi Jehudah says, only if there are three pin-stitches¹⁴It is forbidden to put woolen and linen cloth together only if they are sewn together by at least three stitches (which do not have to be knotted at the ends).. A sack and a chest bring together for kilaim.¹⁵This last clause also is a statement of R. Jehudah in the Mishnah but is irrelevant for the discussion here.” Rebbi Simon said, the reason of Rebbi Eliezer is there¹⁶This statement is taken from Kilaim which is “here”; the statement of R. Eliezer in Šabbat is “there”. that by the third his work becomes permanent, but here¹⁷If two pieces of cloth are connected only by two open stitches, they will separate by themselves and cannot create kilaim. it undoes itself. You conclude that according to Rebbi Eliezer, sometimes three to start out with, sometimes two additional to one woven yesterday, sometimes two additional to one woven yesterday¹⁸It is clear from the plural used for “woven” that the last clause must read “sometimes one additional to two woven yesterday”. This is Rashba’s reading. R. Eliezer simply declares liability of a person who adds the third row on a loom, irrespective of the creation of the first two rows. Babli 105a..

⁴¹¹This paragraph is from Kilaim 9:7 (Notes 162–167,כ); its topic is kilaim, the prohibition to wear linen and wool together, in particular the problem how many stitches it needs to connect linen and woolen cloth to constitute a violation of the prohibition. Only at the end is a connection made with the laws of the Sabbath. Rebbi Ḥanina said, not until it comes down an entire side⁴¹²For him woolen and linen cloths create kilaim only if a full seam was sown. This contradicts the Mishnah quoted next.. Rebbi Yannai said, say to Rebbi Ḥanina, get out and read! Did we not state⁴¹³Mishnah Kilaim 9:10., “if the two ends appear on the same side”? That means, only if it goes up and down and up. And did we not state, “Rebbi Jehudah says, only if there are three needle stitches”? That means that [the thread] goes down, and up, and down. But so and so⁴¹⁴Either one follows the rabbis or R. Jehudah; in no case does one need more than three stitches.. A thread drawn through by means of a needle, even if it has a knot on each side, is no connection for cloth. The thread is a connection for cloth but not for the needle⁴¹⁵If one stitch has been made and now the needle is sticking in the cloth, this does not count since the needle will eventually be removed. In order to create kilaim, the thread alone must cross the cloth three times, for two stitches.. Rebbi Jonah and Rebbi Yose both say, only if it is knotted on both sides. The words of the rabbis disagree since Rebbi Abba, Rav Jeremiah said in the name of Rav: He who straightens out the sides on the Sabbath⁴¹⁶According to Maimonides (Šabbat 10:9), it is the regular procedure in sewing a garment that when a seam is sewn the two sides are stretched to be equal before the thread is knotted. Babli 95a. is liable because of sewing. He should have said, because of sewing and tying knots.