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תלמוד על פסחים 5:1

Jerusalem Talmud Shabbat

Rebbi Zeˋira in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: Half-pipes32The half-pipes mentioned in Mishnah Menaḥot 11:6 which separate between the loaves of the shew-bread, where it is mentioned that they cannot be removed or put in on the Sabbath. This clearly contradicts the Mishnah which declares that all implements may be moved on the Sabbath. and rods33In Mishnah Pesaḥim 5:9 it is asserted by R. Eliezer that while on a weekday the Passover sacrifice is stripped of its hide while hanging on rods carried by two people, on the Sabbath one uses no sticks but two people stretch out their arms to replace the rods. In view of the Mishnah here there is no reason not to use the rods on the Sabbath. It would be easy to say that the practice does not follow R. Eliezer, but since he is a very reliable historical source there can be no doubt that he accurately reports Temple practice from his own experience. One has to conclude that the general permission to use all implements (with the exception of expensive tools of trade) has to be dated to the council of Jabneh after the destruction of the Second Temple.
Babli 123b.
were formulated before implements were permitted. One may not move planks34Planks used to cover the holds of the ship. These are not shaped as implements; in other circumstances they could be used as building materials. of a ship on the Sabbath. If they cover implements or food they are like covers of any implement and may be moved on the Sabbath. Rebbi La said, even although you are saying “like covers of implements”, this is only if they have the designation of an implement35The essence of an implement is that it is subject to impurity. Straight planks are impervious to impurity; they cannot be called “implements”..
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Jerusalem Talmud Pesachim

Halakhah 7118Discussion of Mishnah 9.: They said, that argument of Rebbi Eliezer is no answer to Rebbi Joshua, since he could say to him, how can you answer me with an argument about something that is apt to change for something that is not apt to being changed119The Pesaḥ after the 14th is automatically a well-being offering; but animals dedicated as well-being offerings cannot validly be changed into anything else.? Neither is the argument of Rebbi Joshua an answer to Rebbi Eliezer, since he could say to him, the Pesaḥ of Reuben which he slaughtered in the name of Simeon is changed into something qualified120Mishnah 5:3.; and you are saying, he is liable?
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Jerusalem Talmud Pesachim

MISHNAH: He is liable if he slaughtered it129For a Pesaḥ on the Sabbath he is liable for a purification sacrifice if acting in error. not for its eaters, or not for its subscribers, for the uncircumcised, or for the impure130Since a Pesaḥ is disqualified if nobody is able to eat it.. He is not liable if for its eaters and not for its eaters, for its subscribers and not for its subscribers, for the circumcised and the uncircumcised, for the pure and the impure131Mishnah 5:3.. If he slaughtered and it was found defective, he is liable132Since the Pesaḥ may not be defective (Ex. 12:5), it is necessary to inspect the animal before slaughter.. If he slaughtered and it was found internally tom, he is not liable133Since this cannot be determined beforehand, no guilt can be incurred. The last two statements are equally valid for the Sabbath sacrifices during the year.. He is not liable if he slaughtered and it became known that the owners became disinterested in it, or they died, or they became impure, because he slaughtered with permission134R. Joshua’s opinion in the preceding Halakhah..
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